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Photography in Public Places

February 19th, 2007 (01:05 pm)

Regarding the supposed bill to stop photographers taking photos in public places.


Just out of interest, has anyone seen any information actually regarding this? I've Googled it, & only found links to the petition, & forum discussions of the petition. No actual information or news stories regarding it.

All the petition says on the subject is: "

There are a number of moves promoting the requirement of 'ID' cards to allow photographers to operate in a public place.

Itis a fundamental right of a UK citizen to use a camera in a publicplace, indeed there is no right to privacy when in a public place.

These moves have developed from paranoia and only promote suspicion towards genuine people following their hobby or profession.


Which isn't a huge amount of information. A bit of internet sleuthing has come up with the website of the guy who started the petition, & he quotes an email sent to his camera club. In this email, someone describes how they were questioned for taking some photos in public, & asked to delete them from the memory card, before having the police called to question them further.

What were these bright fucking sparks doing?
Taking photos of kids playing rugby. Well, really, you dumb bastards, what do you expect? Yeah, it was perfectly innocent, but the guardians of those kids have no way of knowing that, so hell, who really was in the wrong there? Common sense, where art thou.
He goes on to point out a lot of technicalities, like for example "2) Children have no more right (or indeed lack of right) to privacy than an adult."
I'm pretty fucking sure that's not entirely true.


6) After further investigation of this case, therewas a club photographer at the event who was worried that these peoplewere affecting his income, and notified the CPO. Again, as the eventwas in a public place (and advertised on the radio), they had exactlyas much right to cover the event as he did.

- More likely he was concerned at some complete randomers popping along to take photos. It's pretty likely that that photographer actually knew the families of the kids, too, surely.

Anyway. The site in question is http://www.phooto.co.uk, & the page I'm referring to is http://www.phooto.co.uk/rights.shtml.

There's the odd point raised that makes some sense, & might be a cause for concern, but those points are largely unsupported. This just comes across as someone ranting, really.

Right at the bottom of the page: "These are the reasons why I have raised the petition at http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Photography/,and although there is no bill in the offing, it is vitally importantthat politicians such as Mr Livingston are fully aware of the basicrights UK citizens have, and that changes to restrict our use ofcameras would require very fundamental changes in UK law."
Yeah. So off you go, sign a petition to stop...nothing at all! Hooray!


Posted by: Andymoo Doom (pseudospook)
Posted at: February 22nd, 2007 05:20 pm (UTC)

Although i disagree with the quote "It is a fundamental right of the british citizen to use a camera in a public place" as i see a fundamental right more along the lines of "they have the right to food" and the such like, I don't think that people would need to have any special priveleges to allow them to do so.

If people are worried about pedos taking photos through fences, surely a better idea would be..... opaque fences (or at least a license to obtain one haw haw)

And even if a law was passed, no one would take it seriously. Like not crossing the road on a crossing on a red man, that whole thing. And the law which provides rights to chavs.


Posted by: Amy Dissolution (amydissolution)
Posted at: February 22nd, 2007 10:41 pm (UTC)

My point was more the fact that there is no bill being discussed, & even the idiot who made the petition admits this.

Any photographer taking pictures in a public place should be exercising common sense. If they're not, then they're going to get questioned.

Also, HELLO!

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